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Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:13 pm
by normanallen
Hello,

I am planning to deploy 2 JBODs to retire my Equallogic SAN and NetApp NAS. I was thinking of going with DataOn, but read in this forum that I should use SuperMicro or Intel.

Servers: Fujitsu RS200 S7 with SAS HBA, running Windows Server 2012 R2
JBODs: Any recommendations are welcome. I was set on DataOn until I read bad things about them in the forum, so I am back to the drawing board here.

Once I connect my JBODs to the servers, will I be able to set up StarWind to sync the JBODs with each other? Am I missing anything? I know it's supposed to be straightforward, but I wanted to make sure :D.

Thanks!
Norman

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:13 am
by Anatoly (staff)
So, basically you will have 2 servers, each one has JBOD, and you want to synchronize the data between those JBODs, correct? If so, I want to assure you that everything should work great - we had similar use cases on my experience.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:22 pm
by normanallen
Correct, and thank you for the reply.

Since DataOn is basically not recommended, should I look at something from SuperMicro or Intel for the JBODs? Any objections or problems with these solutions?

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:51 pm
by Anatoly (staff)
Nope, not at all. Feel free to use them

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:07 pm
by normanallen
Hi Anatoly,

In the StarWind world, would it make sense to add SSD to the JBOD in addition to the SATA drives? I was looking at 2x256GB SSD, and 10x1TB SATA, for example. Each JBOD will be connected to the server via 12GB SAS. I just don't want to miss anything before I make my purchase.

Regards,
Norman

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:39 am
by normanallen
Lastly, I sent a sales request back on Wednesday and I haven't gotten a reply.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:54 am
by anton (staff)
Either DataOn had done their homework properly or people had stopped buying them )) Either way we don't have related complains tracked for quite some time. I'd suggest to run intensive tests before putting them (just like anybody else...) into production but definitely no point to switch JBOD vendor right away.
normanallen wrote:Correct, and thank you for the reply.

Since DataOn is basically not recommended, should I look at something from SuperMicro or Intel for the JBODs? Any objections or problems with these solutions?

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:55 am
by anton (staff)
You can definitely do that but we prefer PCIe attached flash.
normanallen wrote:Hi Anatoly,

In the StarWind world, would it make sense to add SSD to the JBOD in addition to the SATA drives? I was looking at 2x256GB SSD, and 10x1TB SATA, for example. Each JBOD will be connected to the server via 12GB SAS. I just don't want to miss anything before I make my purchase.

Regards,
Norman

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:56 am
by anton (staff)
Nice... Probably sales guys are busy counting their bonuses (( I apologize for inconvenience and I'll personally figure out what's wrong. Thank you for your patience Sir!
normanallen wrote:Lastly, I sent a sales request back on Wednesday and I haven't gotten a reply.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:33 pm
by normanallen
I have some more questions as this project comes together.

1. Since each JBOD is going to be connected directly its server via SAS, is there any benefit to connecting the JBOD devices to each other?
2. In some posts, it says that there's no reason to use anything besides SATA drives. In others, it says to go with SAS. Wouldn't I be better off with SAS in terms of performance and reliability?
3. Do you have a reference document (hardware, architecture, best practices, etc?)?

I am intending to go with RAID 10 on the JBODs, regardless.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:04 pm
by anton (staff)
1) Not really...

2) It's OK to use SATA, SAS or NL-SAS as long as you get decent performance. Currently we indeed get better numbers with SAS but SATA is much cheaper. NL-SAS is somewhere in the middle. Drop me a message and I'll provide you with some internal test reports you could use as a starting point.

3) Sure. Did you check our Resource Library here: https://www.starwindsoftware.com/resource-library?

There are definitely Reference Design (Dell R730 as a base model) and Best Practices for different setups.
normanallen wrote:I have some more questions as this project comes together.

1. Since each JBOD is going to be connected directly its server via SAS, is there any benefit to connecting the JBOD devices to each other?
2. In some posts, it says that there's no reason to use anything besides SATA drives. In others, it says to go with SAS. Wouldn't I be better off with SAS in terms of performance and reliability?
3. Do you have a reference document (hardware, architecture, best practices, etc?)?

I am intending to go with RAID 10 on the JBODs, regardless.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:47 am
by normanallen
PM sent. Thank you.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:16 pm
by Alex Satler (staff)
normanallen wrote:Lastly, I sent a sales request back on Wednesday and I haven't gotten a reply.
Hello Norman.

Unfortunately, lately we (@sales) did not get any e-mails from you. Will you be so kind to re-send it over to: sales@starwindsoftware.com or even better, give us a call: +44 207 193 8318;

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:51 pm
by normanallen
Thank you. I sent an email for now; I am on a conference call and will try to call later today.

Re: Planning 2-node JBOD SAS

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:10 am
by Anatoly (staff)
Quick update for everyone: we successfully contacted :)